This is an awesome interview that took place at Elder Margaret’s humble home in East

Fremantle – Western Australia. I have been lucky enough to have spent a great deal of time

with this amazing Grandmother Elder of Traditional Boskednan Wicchecraft and had many in

depth conversations with her over the decades as my mentor, teacher, friend, grandmother

and spiritual advisor. This is the first and only time that she has ever been interviewed or

spoken out publicly, for our community and placed her words in our Clans Spirit Earth

magazine.

T: Blessed Be and welcome respectfully to the Grand Matriarch of our Tribe and Clan. This is

your first and only ever interview, thank you and welcome with great respect and honor, how

do you like to be described?

M: I am a pennshennyn rudh Wolysk or gwra rudh Wolysek; a Blood Witch of Cornwall, with

roots to the Black Forest Wicches in Germany, and I cannot be anything else as this is my

allotment in life and the afterworld, this is who and what I am unconditionally.

T: What is a blood Wicche?

M: It is a Traditional Wicche born into a Wicche Family, an then trained from childhood up to

the Initiation process if that is what you wish for, it is a reawakening into a ancient faemily of

Magic, we are also called Hereditary Wicches.

T: How long have you been a Wicche?

M: I have been a Wicche for many lifetimes, and my first awakening was at the age of eleven,

with the Rite of the Crow (from child into adulthood or first blooding), then later Initiation

when I was 16 as a Child of the Red Serpent and the Ancient Ones.

T: Was it hard for you as a child growing up in a Craft environment?

M: No! There was no conflict at all as I was protected from the outside mainstream religion. My

grandmother and mother were Wicches. We grew up strong in those days and handled much.

No conflict. Actually, when the Christians came to the door, I would tell them that I am a

Wicche. That usually gets rid of them and they do not usually come back, but it is different for

Jehovah’s Witnesses and Mormons as they always ask for more, to see if they can save another

soul.

T: In our many discussions you said you were against the modern Wiccan movement as you saw

it as a fake religion created for the New Age Spiritualist, how do you feel now as we have

created Australia’s first legal Neo-Pagan Church “The Church of Wicca”, of which you are our

active Elder, what has changed your mind?

M: Well, the fact that I am a Wicche, and when I came to Perth there was only one known

public coven at the time. So naturally I joined this coven, which was a fellow Brit from England,

and when he passed into the Summerland’s, we were introduced to an Alexandrian High Priest

named Simon Goodman and his High Priestess Michelin, they seemed great people at first and I

including my daughter Layla and yourself Tamara decided to join his group, but that only lasted

for a couple of years, as we did not agree with his methodologies. So we together with a fellow

High Priest Geoff Camm (known as Imhotep) formed our own Coven, the Clan of Boskednan,

and from their into the legal Church of Wicca, to protect our community and all new Seekers

into finding their truth.

T: Do you think Wicchecraft has changed throughout the decades?

M: No Wicchecraft is still the basic same with its rituals and ceremonies, but yes Wicca is very

different in that it has taken snippets from different esoteric or occult knowledge and mixed it

all up together, with Wicchecraft just being a small amount and this modern New Age Wicca

being 80% new without the ancient truths or knowledge.

T: What is it that you feel attracts people to Wicca and Wicchecraft?

M: It is a sense of going back to Nature and the Magic that it encompasses. They are also

attracted as they want something magical to happen within their lives, the sad thing is it is not a

case of the Religious aspect which attracts them but the Magical, the Spellcraft, its about what

they want and think they can get. To some it is a selfish attitude, to others it’s a form of coming

home to where they left off in a previous lifetime.

T: Do you do spells?

M: Most definitely, of course I do, I actually have my Spell book by the side of my bed always in

readiness do you magic.

T: What are spells to you?

M: They are powerful prayers, but most prayers ask deity for help, where spells work with the

magic with the magic of Nature and awakens that Wicche within.

T: What is Wicchecraft to you?

M: We are Earth Walkers, we are knowledgeable enough to stand between the worlds, and

connect with all forms of Nature, in doing this we are part of the Magic and rhythm of the spirit

that is the power of Wicchecraft. It is tapping into the power that is the invisible within the

visible, the electromagnetic power that resides in every living thing. It is speaking the language

of the Fae and learning about everything on every level from Mother Nature and the Ancient

Ones and listening to our Ancestors when they speak to us.

T: Can anyone be a Wicche?

M: NO! As it takes a special sort of person that has been on this journey for many lifetimes and

being disciplined enough to listen and learn from everyone and everything. It is about knowing

your vulnerabilities and becoming the most powerful and still natural person you can be. But it

is only for a chosen few, and not for the weak of spirit, or lazy minds, who just use ego as a

shock tactic for the wider community, it is about tapping into the Wicche within, listening to the

Fae and using what they have to teach and offer.

T: What is the real power of Wicches?

M: it is the ability to be the most humblest creature in the world, and in this knowing, you are

also the most powerful because you are One with the Universe in its Natural dance, its is about

being a Magical Doctor and healing everything that needs to be healed, especially ourselves.

T: You are elderly, what advice can you give to a Seeker just starting on this magical journey?

M: Be yourself and be real, no bullshit, no pretenses. Just be sincere in your magnetic being,

and listen to the ancient Call and find yourself, and hopefully find your spiritual faemily.

T: You have been in Australia since the late 60s, do you have a family here who are involved in

Wicchecraft?

M: Yes, I love Australia, and I love living in Fremantle with my eldest son Dennis, middle son

Michael, and my daughter Layla. All of which have since died and left me, that Is why I adopted

you my dear Tamara, to continue on my faemily legacy and the continuance of a line of blood

Wicches.

T: I am sorry that you have been left alone, but I am always here with and for you, My Lady. You

are just a part of Cornish Wicchecraft, are there many different types of Wicchecraft in the

world?

M: Yes, I am just a small grain of sand in the desert of Wicchecraft variations, but no matter

what our culture, or heritage, we are all the same under one starry roof, with the Ancient Ones

and the Magic of Mother Nature. We do not need labels, or names to differentiate us between

ourselves, we are Wicches – nothing more and nothing less, no other titles needed.

T: Are there any funny experiences or stories that you can share with us?

M: Yes, there are many funny experiences that one goes through in ones life, especially when

you have lived as long as me. But an event that I remember, was about a gentleman friend

named Syd, who was a very experienced astral traveler and he always popped into my bedroom

to talk and of course wanted a bit more as most men do. So, I nick-named him the astral rapist

because all he wanted was sex, he was such a naughty boy. So when he appeared on night, I

grabbed him and twisted his testacies, and he left very quickly. A couple of weeks later I saw

him and he was limping, and I asked why, and he said he had pain in his testacies for some

reason, and the doctors could not find the problem.

T: What is your preferred form of Wicchecraft that you use a lot?

M: Dolly Magic known as Fif-faths, or they are sometimes called poppets Magic.

T: Why do you think people come into Wicchecraft these days?

M: Because they want something they cannot find or get in this mortal world. They want

something different, some a home away from home, some a magical faemily, or just to fill in

the gaps of their magical journey. But you only get out of it what you put into it, Some give up

too easy, whilst others work hard and stay forever. Those that are not genuine or willing to

work hard slowly disappear.

T: Throughout all your years did you have a mentor, someone that you learnt from and respect

above all others?

M: Yes, when I was young it was my mother Lillian, and grandmother Rosemary, also my

husband Adrian, for they all taught me something different, but each was my mentor, another

was here in Australia a lady named Elizabeth Paterson, she was a natural Earth Wicche. Then

there is you my dear Lady Tamara, you who have awakened me to the future of Wicchecraft.

T: What is your philosophy for life?

M: To live sincerely with wanting to help others with charity, compassion and unconditional

love, and helping to bring those Seekers into the arms and heart of the Goddess, we must be

there for each other and not let our brothers and sisters down.

T: Do you believe in reincarnation?

M: Born again in another body, so the spirit can come back and continually learn until they have

achieved and succeeded in ascending to their highest form as a Shining One of our tradition.

T: In Craft terms what level or degree are you?

M: I have no degree, no level, I am just an old lady, who happens to be a Wicche – an old one,

maybe a Crone or Hag!

T: If a Christian or non-Wiccan/Pagan/Wicche asked about the Craft, what would you say to

them?

M: I would suggest some reading material or contact yourself and the Church of Wicca for

information?

T: Where do you see the future of Wicca – Paganism and Wicchecraft in the future, do you

think religions will come together?

M: I cannot ever see mainstream religions and Pagan religions ever coming together and they

are too opposite in their ideologies and theologies, I feel that one day all Pagan religions will

come together under one umbrella, but due to politics and the wide differences of the Craft I

feel it will pull away from training centers such as covens etc., and the world will fall into a blind

ego world of solitary people. Incorporating the New Age into the Craft is as bad as going back in

time and Christianity incorporating Paganism, as eventually what is their Truth becomes a lie.

T: Do you ever feel that it will change the way the media and people see wicches?

M: There will always be changes, some good and some bad, but as for acceptance and or

tolerance of our ways, on the grand scale no we will never be accepted, but people will just put

us into a separate basket of fruit loops that see the world differently to the norm.

T: Where does sex come into Traditional Wicchecraft?

M: It does not belong at all. We may be a fertility religion that celebrates and honors life, but

we are not there for personal satisfaction. The Great Rite as it used to be called was sacred

during the Burning Times when whole Faemilies, clans, covens etc. were in threat of torture and

death. It was when a Wicche of one Coven was matched up with the Wicche of another Coven,

to procreate new Wicche Blood, as a child of both Clans. This then meant the safety and

protection of all and a continuance of our Earth Tradition. But when I see or hear of sex rites in

the Craft due to ego’s of certain people it disgusts me, everything we do is to marry up and

balance everything on the astral or the spiritual realm, not for getting our rocks off due to

ignorance.

T: What books would you recommend to the young Seeker?

M: As I have read most books by Raymond Buckland, Scott Cunningham, or Starhawk. But to

truly know the Craft one must learn within a trained Circle.

T: How can you tell a genuine Wicche?

M: They never say anything hurtful or cruel, they never speak badly of another, and they never

threaten or boast about their powers to any. As this means they are weak in spirit and hold no

honor. They come to a Clan or circle and give freely, instead of taking.

T: What is a Wicche?

M: It is different for each Wicche, as I have always been a Wicche and cannot be anything else. I

cannot answer that because it changes from year to year with the introduction of new ideas.

T: What do you think of those playing Wicche?

M: Stupid children as it is as dangerous as driving a freight train without training, learn and

study first, then know the essence of the Craft by understanding its powers, we should never

play with something that is so powerful.

T: What advice would you like to share with our Community?

M: Listen first and be careful about what you say or do, because once it is said it is like a missile

and can either create or destroy if emotional or powerful energy is with it. Try to meet like-

minded people, not children who are so innocent and ignorant. It is a serious lifestyle with a

heavy responsibility on all those that walk this Path, remember you are a child of this Magic and

must understand the love and power or destruction of power that can be performed. Listen,

Learn, laugh, Love, and the world is yours. Try to meet with reputable people who are serious

about their tradition or faith and what they do, the Truth of Wicchecraft is love unto all beings

with no exception, especially yourself.

T: What final words word you like to share with all our community?

M: I leave you with a special blessing from an Old One, may your feet be always firm upon the

ground, and your heart and ears within Nature, if your soul is true, then the Fae will guide and

teach you all the magic of this realm and theirs. Blessed Be!

Lady Margaret DeLille Quinn

Adrian Reinman - Lady Magarets Husband